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Texas Tech | What to Hate, What to Respect | A Rivalry in the Making?

Texas Tech is kind of a rival of Oklahoma State.  I mean we don't have a long, storied history or anything, but the last decade has provided some exciting contests between the two schools and I think most of us look forward to this game each year.  And with the two school's football teams being viewed similarly by the nation/media (as upstarts), and both competing for the same goal (3rd fiddle in the South and to sneak out a few South and Big 12 titles here and there), the schools and fanbases have naturally begun to look at each other as rivals of sorts.  Maybe not in the traditional "we have played each other since the 40's" sense, but more rivals in that we are competing for the same space.  The problem is, since this pseudo-rivalry is so new it has no identity, and little definition. That is where this post comes in.

A series between two schools needs two things to be considered a rivalry, hatred and respect.  Right now I don't think that us OSU fans have enough of either in regards to Tech. So if this thing is going to be a "pseudo-rivalry with rivalry potential" (what a catchy name!), then let's take a look at what we have available to hate and respect about Texas Tech in a few categories... feel free to add your own as well.
note: This is only the view of things to hate and respect about Tech from the OSU side, let them figure out what to respect (Garth Brooks) and hate (Garth Brooks) about us.

The list after the Jump

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School History

What to RespectWhat to Hate
Texas Tech started as an Ag and Engineering school.  We have to respect that.
Texas Tech was originally called " Texas Technological College".  Technological? Isn't that a word the old guy at your office uses to refer to anything IT related?
They have a Will Rogers statue on campus that is positioned so its ass faces directly at College Station.  I'll always respect a universities decision to say "FU" to a rival. Will Rogers is Oklahoma's favorite son. Seriously, Will Rogers is as Oklahoma as anyone has ever been Oklahoma.  There weren't enough Texas icons to chose from for your ass pointing statue?
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Players and Coaches

What to RespectWhat to Hate
Wes Welker.
The dude practically invented the undersized white slot receiver position that Josh Cooper is thriving in.  Honestly, at this point, if a receiver is white, under 6'2", and at least halfway decent, they are going to get the Welker comparison.
BJ Symons
That MFer that "shushed" the Oklahoma State crowd after throwing for a TD that brought Tech to only 2 TDs down. That guy seemed like a huge prickface. I was happy to see that when I went looking for video of his premature celebration in the 03 game, my youtube search returned this result:Bj_symons_highlights_medium
Zach Thomas
Dude was an animal, and I'm pretty sure I remember him once wearing a half-jersey that showed his mid-drift during games... and for some reason I respect this.

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Every quarterback that has ever played for Tech.
What is it with them and recruiting unlikeable quarterbacks?  Taylor Potts being the latest and terrible-est example.

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Mike Leach
Brought the Playstation offense into the mainstream.
Mike Leach
Looks like Vince Gill, and by all accounts is a major league asshole.  And yes I could be convinced that both of those traits should actually be in the respectable column.


Fans

What to RespectWhat to Hate
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Traditions and History

What to RespectWhat to Hate
We can thank a Texas Tech grad for the tradition of Bullet. Dr. Eddy Finley, a Tech grad who was a professor at Oklahoma State in 1984, thought an Ag school should be represented by a working ranch cowboy and horse.  Inspired by the masked rider tradition of his alma mater he suggested the idea of Bullet and it soon became an Oklahoma State tradition.
Many Tech fans have taken Dr Finley's gesture, his passing of a good idea to a new place, his homage to his Alma Mater, and have twisted it to infer that Oklahoma State has stolen every tradition from Tech.
An Example:
Do you remember when you were 4 years old and first started making a gun with your index finger and thumb?  You thought you were so creative and original with your finger gun didn't you?  Well that is fine because you were 4 and didn't yet know shit about shit. Well apparently some Tech fans never had the realization that EVERY kid did this and that the finger gun isn't all that original, because many of them honestly believe that they invented this gesture. Seriously. When you are in Lubbock this weekend, do the gun thing to some Tech fans and see what they say.  I wrote about this in more depth and in a much more asshole-ish way over the summer.
Texas Tech has not had a losing record since 1992, making them the only Big 12 team to not have a losing record since the formation of the conference.

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LA Looks called...

They want every bottle of their product that has ever been purchased back.

by mojavereject on Oct 13, 2010 3:49 AM CDT reply actions  

Why would they?

He accounts for 17% of their total sales. When he cut his hair earlier this year they had to layoff 200 people.

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by AUKingOState on Oct 13, 2010 6:21 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

This joke is not accurate anymore

Everyone knows Gundy switched from LA Looks to Dep in 2008.

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by samuelbryant on Oct 13, 2010 7:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

You better be careful what you say about Leach sam,

He’ll lock you in a storage shed.

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by AUKingOState on Oct 13, 2010 6:35 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

You are going to hate on Leach?

After he spent the off season showing your coaches how to run his offense. Don’t speak too soon because if Gundy can’t get it done, Leach may be wearing orange and celebrating all the same traditions he was a year ago (second hand).

by Raider75 on Oct 13, 2010 8:10 AM CDT reply actions  

My thoughts exactly

Leach gets completely f***** by Tech and immediately Holgerson and Graham Harrell head to OSU to show them how to run it and even bring Mike Leach in to top it off. Newsflash buddy…if you haven’t noticed your offense this year it is kicking ass and it’s not because you guys are just that good. You should probably give Leach a little nod and some respect for helping you guys out.

by TTU '04 on Oct 13, 2010 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

If you hadn't noticed buddy, our offense was running pretty well the past few years.

And Graham Harrell, how’s that pro career going?

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by AUKingOState on Oct 13, 2010 8:52 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Better than Zac Robinson's........

Chikaw!! It’s “rivalry week” or whatever, eat me.

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by KWashburn on Oct 13, 2010 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

thank you

I cant express how much I love the term “eat me”. It really should be used so much more.

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by samuelbryant on Oct 13, 2010 2:36 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Where exactly..

…was Leach brutally insulted in this article? Even the half-ass insult I threw out there i followed with “actually those traits could be in the respectable column”. Relax.

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by samuelbryant on Oct 13, 2010 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

They're sensitive sam, they lost a pirate

And gained a riverboat gambler. They haven’t adjusted yet.

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by AUKingOState on Oct 13, 2010 9:12 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Thanks Dad.

Mike Leach is in fact an asshole and he does look like Vince Gill…

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by CincyJoe on Oct 13, 2010 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

My guess is no, probably not.

First, Gundy is solid as hc, even if he keeps losing to ou/ut. Second, I’d be worried the Lubbock tortilla factory would leave town and move here if we hired leach, and we don’t need a tortilla factory. And third, everybody wants a leach style offense, but nobody wants leach. Hell, Tennessee hired lane kiffin and the doley kid and didn’t give your favorite pirate a thought. Leach needed tech more than they needed him, no other BCS school will put up with his shit.

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by AUKingOState on Oct 13, 2010 8:49 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Excellent King.

That is dead on. He is just a pain in the ass that nobody wants to put up with.

If you can’t last in Lubbock….

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by CincyJoe on Oct 13, 2010 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

But what about the TACOS?

Texas Tech is just mad about tacos! Did you know that TT used to throw around their favorite food tortillas, and the same food that TT grads would later get jobs selling in burrito form, when they went to watch their team play! It’s true. Texas Technological started doing this one year because they had thousands of unsold tortillas after one of the many Hep B scares that roll through Lubbock like so much tumbleweed. It was 1992 and TT fans decided that obnoxiousness was not yet synonymous with Texas Tech football, and threw tortillas filled with rocks and dip spit at opposing fans. Despite all this being good for the schools image, the practiced was curtailed during the great tortilla shortage of 2004, and TT fans were reduced to throwing syphilitic condoms, because as we all know that is something they will never, ever run out of.

by Yachoffsmirnoff on Oct 13, 2010 9:51 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Yeah...

“Did you know that TT used to throw around their favorite food tortillas, and the same food that TT grads would later get jobs selling in burrito form, "

I guess you’re probably right. Having an MHA from a top 5 national graduate program and being a Hospital CEO at 29 doesn’t count for much with my shitty little education from Tech. If that’s the only argument you’ve got then it’s obvious we are doing something right. I’m sure the next one will be if you can breathe you get accepted to Tech…or…they have an acceptance process there? Bottom line is I was number 12 in my class of 500+ and was accepted to A&M, UT, and Tech automatically and chose Tech over those two because I actually have a work ethic and grew up in West Texas. Newsflash dickhead…we aren’t all blabbering idiots at Tech.

by TTU '04 on Oct 13, 2010 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Seriously?

Bragging about your job and class rank online…

by Upgrayedd on Oct 13, 2010 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not Bragging...

Simply stating that the always famous line that all Tech grads are idiots no longer has any merit.

by TTU '04 on Oct 13, 2010 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Seriously?

He did say we sold burritos dude…

by TTU '04 on Oct 13, 2010 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, someone had to do it, congratulations.

Your the first asshole to call someone a dickhead. Now, mr. hospital CEO at 29, I don’t give two shits if you manage the local free clinic in Lubbock (though it’s a noble cause, you’ll never stop the syphilis outbreak under control), you are way too sensitive about your school.

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by AUKingOState on Oct 13, 2010 2:59 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Thanks...

For the asshole reference…kind of equals out the name calling back and forth.

by TTU '04 on Oct 13, 2010 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Could you give...

three shits? Since you said you don’t give two shits I thought maybe three was a better number.

by TTU '04 on Oct 13, 2010 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't want to ever go to s hospital where the

CEO is 29.

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by CincyJoe on Oct 13, 2010 2:58 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

That says more

About the size and scope of the hospital than your experience, education or knowledge.

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by CincyJoe on Oct 13, 2010 2:59 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Be Afraid...

We actually know how to things much more efficiently than some who came before us. Be careful, we may actually know how to automate some things via technology and save some money. God forbid us from saving any money from our current healthcare system. Since it’s so efficient and everything. Cheers!

by TTU '04 on Oct 13, 2010 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Online sarcasm...

is tough to convey. Nothing to calm down about, man.

by TTU '04 on Oct 13, 2010 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

So how are you things?

Always have faith in God, yourself, and the Cowboys.
-Eddie Sutton

by Cozmo23 on Oct 13, 2010 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

You must be very efficient, gettin work done

While bullshitting on an Oklahoma state site.

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by AUKingOState on Oct 13, 2010 4:19 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Welcome to the Blogoshpere

“cowboys ride 4 free”

To clear up WHY we have a Will Rogers Statue on our Campus…

When Will Rogers worked for the Ft Worth Star Telegram, its owner Amon G Carter was the owner and was still alive. Amon Carter was a benefactor of Texas Christian University who at the time had a big Rivalry with Texas Tech. Hence, his employee, (Will Rogers) already being wealthy and famous, adopted TTU as his school to root for.

The Lyle Leong Bandwagon will Continue to Roll!!!
Arriba sus Pistolas, Muchachos!

by Tortilla Pirate on Oct 13, 2010 9:53 AM CDT reply actions  

And as far as tech tradition, well,

Texas Tech, established 1923
Oklahoma State, established 1890.

Texas Tech first year of football, 1925
Oklahoma State first year of football, 1901 (to be fair, we first joined a conference in 1915)

But, most importantly, the year Pistol Pete became our mascot (and the year we used a “gun” symbol for the first time) 1923. So, now Cowboys, Raiders, and 4 year olds have equal right to the symbol.

So there you go tech, we got you by two years. Now, if only I could find out when the first storage shed was build in Lubbock.

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by AUKingOState on Oct 13, 2010 10:12 AM CDT reply actions  

that a lie

The first hand symbol was started by TCU that was later. Not only do you still your best players from Texas but even your money comes from Texas. So get over it Horse Thieves

by Wrongway0001 on Oct 13, 2010 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Are we talking about tcu?

Hell no. And if you consider recruiting Texas “stealing” there is no hope for you.

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by AUKingOState on Oct 13, 2010 1:12 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

oklahoma

Yea recuiting in texas is stealing, you cant win with just home grown boys.

by Wrongway0001 on Oct 13, 2010 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wes Welker...

and that about ends this dumb argument.

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by Cozmo23 on Oct 13, 2010 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Or the fact that Brandon weeden,

Justin Blackmon, Bo bowling, Clint chelf, Colton chelf, and about half our roster are Oklahoma boys.

OSU, running a soft zone since 2004

by AUKingOState on Oct 13, 2010 9:30 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Cozmo for the win. Rec'd!

You smell that, kids? Yeah, that’s a fresh batch of hypocrisy.

by Royal John on Oct 14, 2010 7:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good thing OSU gave him a look........

As long as we’re going to talk shit and everything……

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by KWashburn on Oct 14, 2010 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wes Welker can suck and die

as long as he plays for the pats. They are the biggest dicks of the NFL, and playing for them erases anything good he ever did, and any level. Im almost certain that every person to play for bill belichek is damned to hell.

OSU, running a soft zone since 2004

by AUKingOState on Oct 14, 2010 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's quite possible.

I saw that Welker sold his soul to the devil to recover quickly. Seriously, there was a documentary on it. Terrible acting.

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by KWashburn on Oct 15, 2010 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

yeah thing is Wes Welkers high school education cost more than all 7 years of a masters degree at Tech. People love to say Tech was the only one who thought Welker was good enough….. when really schools said come on, walk on 1 year & re evaluate year to year……

by OU JJ on Oct 14, 2010 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can we get some links to that?

I don’t see how the cost of his high school education had anything to do with him joining a team…..

He literally forced his video into Leach’s office.

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by KWashburn on Oct 15, 2010 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

NOT THAT ANY ONE GIVES 2 SHITS

Its a damn fact how much it costs per year to attend Heritage hall look it up. It is also a fact that he was offered the opportunity to walk on & then earn a scholarship as he could afford to, however Wes Welker wanted to say “I am a D1 scholarship player”…. pure & simple dont go patting yourself on the back that he was some undiscovered talent because he indeed WAS NOT

by OU JJ on Oct 16, 2010 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Way to back up the facts....

“it’s a damn fact how much it costs per year to attend Heritage hall look it up”

This proves nothing. Thanks again.

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by KWashburn on Oct 17, 2010 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

So let me get this straight

Any school that recruits athletes outside of their own state is “stealing them?”

Is that a serious remark?

by Royal John on Oct 13, 2010 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good timing John, the double hate.

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by AUKingOState on Oct 13, 2010 1:13 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

can anyone confirm

That Zach Thomas wore a half shirt in games. I swear I remember this but can’t find any pics.

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by samuelbryant on Oct 13, 2010 10:49 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

His INT and return for a TD against A&M years ago, it painfully obvious.

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by KWashburn on Oct 13, 2010 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just in your dreams Sam.

Always have faith in God, yourself, and the Cowboys.
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by Cozmo23 on Oct 13, 2010 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

I searched Zach Thomas Half Shirt in Google images

Here is what I got.

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by Cozmo23 on Oct 13, 2010 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

well im hard

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by samuelbryant on Oct 13, 2010 4:19 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Now, now sams being weird

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by AUKingOState on Oct 13, 2010 6:34 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

How about the aggie response of

“it’s not a rivalry if we don’t acknowledge you”. That one always drives me crazy.

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by KWashburn on Oct 13, 2010 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, they do have the greatest team ever.

No one can cover their receivers, or score on them. Except they can and do. We had our fun with them a few weeks ago.

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by AUKingOState on Oct 13, 2010 2:32 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

i think they are the current leaders in the

“fanbase that most needs to re-evaluate thier programs standing” category.

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by samuelbryant on Oct 13, 2010 2:34 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

If there's one thing we can all agree on..

It’s that Aggie is fucking nutty. And they all have shitty class rings.

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by CincyJoe on Oct 13, 2010 2:56 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

What fun!!! I have missed you guys.....

King I got in trouble for saying/typing “assclwon” during the OU/tX game… you know where.

Sorry Mr CEO, I live in the waste land known as west texas & it sucks, in fact Lubbock in general sucks. Stilly atleast has the “feel” of a college town ala College Station/OU/Happy Valley. Lubbock, heck no & its out in the middle of nowhere…. what is it 4 hours to ANYWHERE??

Fact a long long time ago Wichita Falls was “granted” a state mental institution or Texas Technology….. they chose the mental institution.

by OU JJ on Oct 13, 2010 6:03 PM CDT reply actions  

I stopped posting there for the most part.

Your fearless leader wont talk to me, jte is cool, but it’s way too serious there. I was wondering what happened to you. How you feeling bout Iowa state,

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by AUKingOState on Oct 13, 2010 6:35 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

haha

I am good. Shit ISU is at home, I d worry on the road….. prolly about 18 point win, just enough to piss off people. Would like to see Murray break the TD mark this weekend, no sense in wasting it on Colorado, it wont last til Tech….

Oct 1 had alot of medicare billing changes & I have been working way tooooo much, least it was a bye week

by OU JJ on Oct 13, 2010 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

"what is it 4 hours to ANYWHERE??"

In West Texas we call this ‘being right in the middle of it all’

by mojavereject on Oct 13, 2010 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Hostage

I call it living due souith of hell, being held hostage in the vast waste land….. west texass sucks….

by OU JJ on Oct 14, 2010 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Seriously, where do you live in West Texas?

I’m just curious. Either you really hate it out here or you haven’t traveled much to see what is offered.

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by KWashburn on Oct 15, 2010 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Hence why I call it being held hostage in West Texas. It sucks & so does Lubbock…. every Tech grad (former student) I know… which is a lot, think Lubbock is the mecca. It isnt. And iof you must know, my spouse worked directly for that man your stadium is named for, I have been in & out of Lubbock & SBC/ATT Jones stadium about 50 times a year….

by OU JJ on Oct 16, 2010 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

I didn't request information about your wife's employer.

That’s not relevant either. I was only asking where in West Texas you lived. Had you answered me, I was going to refer to you some places to visit to show you what this area has to offer. But then you went off on some tangent about riding your wife’s coattails 50 times a year. So……… what exactly are you trying to do here?

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by KWashburn on Oct 17, 2010 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dont give a shit

First of all I am the wife, not that it is particularly relevent. Yes, we live in West Texass, no it s not any of oyur damn business where. My husband works for AT&T. The point being I have been in & out of Lubbock & on campus about 50 times a year. I am calling it a shitty place tyo visit based on many visits. Not based on 1. I have been all over west texas from Midland to Abilene to Lubbock to Amarillo, in & out of Wichita Falls & all points in between. Angelo, Childress, Vernon, Pampa. So I dont like it, big deal brother, move on. I dont even like Stillwater, but it does have a quaint college town feel. West Texas feels like it is stuck in a time warp.

by OU JJ on Oct 18, 2010 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's quite hilarious.....

your ignorance and typing skills. Along with your ability to communicate with other people on the internet. You hate everything that isn’t Oklahoma, I get that.

Are you a college grad?

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by KWashburn on Oct 19, 2010 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Along with every other town around Lubbock

as far as having Tech in their area. Floydada for instance. They had the chance, but no. Let’s not do that. I’ll never forget that. It was on family farm land. Fuck. Me.

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by KWashburn on Oct 14, 2010 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

WTF? & Floydada has soooooooo prospered…..

by OU JJ on Oct 14, 2010 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's my point. They haven't prospered at all.

The town is still a shit hole. Albeit my family’s shit hole, but a shit hole none the less.

I wanna say shit hole again. SHIT HOLE.

I think you’re reading a little too far into these comments.

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by KWashburn on Oct 15, 2010 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

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