Oklahoma State at Gonzaga Preview
After a slow start to the season (started 4-5) the Zags have turned it on and won 4 in a row including one over then #9 Baylor to bring their record to 8-5. But outside of the record, they are basically a mirror image of the Cowboys... or at least there are enough similarities that it becomes an easy trope to use to write a game preview. The Zags are powerful down low behind 7'0 Center Robert Sacre and 6'8 Forward Elias Harris while the guards are a bunch of wildcards (especially at the point) and they have a lot of unproven, young, athletic wing players that come off the bench.... sound familiar?
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An important factor in this game will be if guard Stephen Gray will be healthy and have an impact. Gray is the Zags leading scorer and really stretches defenses with his outside shooting (42% from three this season). He has been suffering from back spasms since collapsing during the Baylor game on 12/18 and has seen minimal action over the last two games. Without Gray, the Zags lose their main outside threat and instead have to look to this German dude named Mathis Monninghoff to provide most of the three point shooting. Although, if you have to turn to someone to take the place of your best player... you could do a lot worse than a German that I assume goes by the nickname, "The Hoff".
The Zags will try to pound it down low to the their meat inside (gross),and try to work an inside out game to get the guards going. With the weakness of this Gonzaga team being the guard play, the Darrell Williams trap (as it will now be called) should prove very valuable. If the bigs can continue to execute that trap play the Zags will get flustered and turn the ball over.. they currently average 16 turnovers a game.
On the offensive end, the Cowboys will be trying to get Moses the ball early in the low post or near the free throw line where he can either run through his arsenal of post moves or get doubled and hopefully find where it came from and hit an open Cowboy. And speaking of the Moses double team, if the Cowboys have done anything with the past week off i hope it was at least 75% focused on beating that double...because I am sure we will see plenty of it yet again.
All things considered, if the Zags of the last 4 games show up than this is definitely the toughest matchup the Pokes have seen this season.... but it is still a very winnable game. Vegas thinks the Zags are 5 points better than the Pokes, but that line would shift to about even if the game weren't in Spokane. This won't be the first time the Cowboys have been in a hostile environment, so they shouldn't be too flustered by the road trip... a Cowboy victory will end up coming down to controlling the paint and the boards (no easy task with Sacre and Harris down there), forcing turnovers (a very manageable task), beating the Moses double team, and of course, not getting hooked on a feeling.
For the other side of things check out the SB Nation Gonzaga site The Slipper Still Fits, who have in fact confirmed for me that their German dude is referred to as "The Hoff".
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Gonzaga has 2 German dudes!
Elias Harris is on the German national team! Should be a good game, although it doesn’t look like you guys have played anyone so I expect the Zags to jump out to an early lead and keep it. Crowd won’t have an effect on this game, as the students are out of town.
Happy New Year! and GO ZAGS!!
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I'm still pissed off about Adam Morrisson beating us a few years back
in Seattle with a last minute three pointer. This is a moderately big game for OSU in terms of quality wins for the tournament resume, so I am looking forward to it.
Like every game, it comes down to whether or not our guards can play well and put up points. If Page/Penn can score and Moses/Pilgrim/Williams can score and play defense, we are tough to beat. Throw in a good game from JPO and we can win this game.
The Zags have played a pretty tough schedule, but I’m not sure they’ve seen the physical inside presence that we have. That mixed with our solid Big 10 defense will be hard for them to handle.
Go Pokes!
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"This is a moderately big game for OSU in terms of quality wins for the tournament resume"
Or…..one could say in terms of a quality loss?
I think our bigs will be your downfall. Gonzaga has much more size up front and you will understand too late that the only way to stop Sacre is to foul him, but that will just get you in foul trouble and send him to the line, where he is MONEY!
So what can you do? IMO, not much. Good luck and I hope it’s a good game but I see the Zags in a surprisingly easy win: Zags 77 Ok State 65
Its gonna be gLoRiOUS!!~
I think you will take back that "much more size" comment
when you see Moses, Pilgrim, and D Williams take the court. Not knocking you, just saying that their dimensions listed on a roster sheet don’t really do justice to how big these dudes are. That and ESPN having Pilgrim and Moses being listed at 230 and 215 respectively is a joke… the official roster lists them both at 255 which is way more accurate.
I do agree that Gonzaga has the edge down low…but I dont think it is a huge edge.
and ya… Sacre scares me..the only game of yalls I have watched was Xavier and it was obvious what a beast he is.
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by samuelbryant on Dec 31, 2010 4:24 PM CST up reply actions
Ya still thinkin that?
I think I called it pretty rightious like. And my final score prediction? I mean c’mon…give a guy his due.
You guys have a great team. You sure pass the “eye test”. We are almost invincible at home. Now, lick your wounds and bounce back….win out and show the world what you can do. Good luck w/ the rest of your season.
Happy New year~~~
Its gonna be gLoRiOUS!!~
Nice prediction
although my point still stands that you didn’t win by bullying us inside. That Harris dude had a game, and if he can keep playing like that, and Gray can be 100%, I can see you guys rolling though conference play undefeated.
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Really well played
by both teams through the first 5 minutes. Good pace, both teams are hitting the shots they should… has the makings of a good one. Although, the VT game looked like this through 5 minutes too, and ended up being the ugliest 2nd half of basketball ever played.
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So, is this the last time we play Gonzaga
or do they still owe us a game in Stillwater?
in stilly
In 2 years. 2012-2013 season
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by samuelbryant on Dec 31, 2010 9:58 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
everyone is watching the ball on d
Making it easy for cutters to get open
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by samuelbryant on Dec 31, 2010 9:58 PM CST via mobile reply actions
not sure how many points that harris has
But I know at least 7 of them were on ridiculously low percentage shots. Dude is hot… and he’s playing well (rimshot)
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by samuelbryant on Dec 31, 2010 10:01 PM CST via mobile reply actions
We are playing like they are 10 feet tall and we are in 5th grade
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was a bad run at the end of the half
Looked tired. Wasn’t helping that gonzaga couldn’t miss. A half court shot? Things are going their way.
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by samuelbryant on Dec 31, 2010 10:06 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
OMG
When 5’9 150 lb David Stockton hit that shot from 45’ I almost choked to death….lucky and unreal! One of those games when the rim is as big as the ocean, unfortunately for you guys.
Its gonna be gLoRiOUS!!~
penn kills me
He gets into the lane so easily, then at least half the time screws it up. If he had a quick floater like iverson (first person I thought of), or was a better interior passer, he would be a stud.
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by samuelbryant on Dec 31, 2010 10:13 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
If he can't do that as a sophomore, will he ever be able to?
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off topic
But I’m willing to bet Pitt wishes they’d hired Holgorsen, instead of the guy sitting in the jail cell tonight.
And they didn’t like Dana because of “character issues”. HA!
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by samuelbryant on Dec 31, 2010 10:17 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Fuck Pitt and the holier than thou bullshit of the east coast
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horrible effort
All around. No spark. Are they hungover?
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by samuelbryant on Dec 31, 2010 10:20 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Have to be
they have given up against a team that is bigger and better than them.
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This is making me sick
turning it off. Can’t handle lack of effort.
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I like this lineup that is in
at least the Brown/Olukemi part of it. Need size and hops in there
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no one is worse than tisdale
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by samuelbryant on Dec 31, 2010 10:33 PM CST up reply actions
#13 Kelly Olynyk was a point guard in high school
He went through quite a lil growth spurt (7’) and he is still growing into his new body so he is very clumsy. Couple of years ago, he stepped on Sacre’s foot and broke it and that is why Sacre had a red shirt season, is only a junior, and will be back even bigger next year!
So yeah, Olynyk looks terrible at times but he is only a sophomore and he played for the National Canadian Team this summer and did very well. Still, looks weird seeing a seven footer hitting threes like that.
Its gonna be gLoRiOUS!!~
just an all around off game
bad combination of everything. Gonzaga is hot as hell, we are not, and it looks like we have jet lag or something.
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Not to make excuses...
But a 9pm start is pretty late.
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lets make excuses
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by samuelbryant on Dec 31, 2010 10:35 PM CST up reply actions
thin air in washington is killing up
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by samuelbryant on Dec 31, 2010 10:36 PM CST up reply actions
bad lighting in there is throing off the shooters
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by samuelbryant on Dec 31, 2010 10:38 PM CST up reply actions
This reminds me of the Tulsa game last year
they cannot miss from 3
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Wish that...
Page would just start putting up shots…him shooting with a hand in his face is better than some of the looks we’re getting
ya
i would be fine with Brown and JPO just shooting 3s over the guards the rest of the way too
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by samuelbryant on Dec 31, 2010 10:40 PM CST up reply actions
Gonzaga has a gear we dont
I dont doubt that on a different night we could play with them, but when the Zags can extend a lead they do it. We have struggled with that all season. Even in this game when we were up 7 early we had multiple chances to extend, and instead let them go on an 11-2 run.
Now here, we score on a few straight possessions, and instead of choking, Gray hits a 3 to take the lead back to 21 and just kill OSU’s confidence. We need to learn how to do this.
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not to "what if" this too much
but 3-11 from FT line isnt helping. should only be down 12 or so.
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