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Questions For the Oklahoma State Cowboys

I do not profess to being smarter than the Oklahoma State coaches (just more endowed), nor a better athlete than the men on the field (just less endowed), but there are a few things that I do not understand about some of the things Oklahoma State does, and wonder if other options could be considered.  I thought I would dedicate a post to asking those questions, and half-assedly explaining my reasoning behind them.  Feel free to answer any for me if you have any answers.

Question #1: Why do we never/rarely use a nickelback?
Unless I just haven't noticed, I can only think of a couple of plays that mattered this season where the Cowboys defense didn't have 3 linebackers and 4 D-linemen on the field. Yes we get creative with how these LB's and linemen are used in order to get more guys into coverage, but I have to wonder why we don't take a LB off the field and run with Victor Johnson and Johnny Thomas deep, Markelle Martin as the nickle (or whatever personnel works best), and 2 DB's on the field. Maybe because James Thomas is a smallish LB to begin with, Young likes to think of him as sort of a nickleback already?

On Saturday it was becoming apparent that the Pokes needed more secondary speed on the field to combat the Troy spread, yet play after play there we were with the 3 LB's and 4 DB/S trying to cover four and five wide sets. Just seems like it removes the possibility of manning up due to the speed mismatches so you are effectively letting the offense force you into a zone coverage (not that you can really man up against a 5-wide anyway, but you get the point).  Again, I know Bill Young knows a ton more than us about how to run a defense (for now), but it doesn't mean we can't ask questions if it seems like there are alternatives.

Question #2: Why do we not run the inside out move with Blackmon every series?
That inside out move where he fakes the post then hits the fly toward the corner seems to be available at will. Neither of the teams we have seen can cover him on this route, and in both games when we needed a score to provide cushion it almost seemed like the thinking was, "Oh, now we REALLY need a score?  Ok, let's run the play that works every time". I know that is a very simplistic way of looking at it, and that a lot of the preceding plays are intended specifically to set that play up, but it just seems like it could be utilized a little more.

Question #3: Why were we not running more clock with 2:00 left?
I get that the Air Raid is meant to be attacking, and that the theory is to never let your foot off the gas, but it was getting pretty effing nervous up in section 102 when Weeden was snapping the ball with 20 seconds left on the play clock. I'm fine with the playcalling, the reverses, the short passes, whatever... but please explain to me the value of not running the play-clock all the way down when you are protecting a lead late in the game.

Question #4 (for stat-keepers): Did those forward pitches we ran in the first half count toward passing or rushing stats?
I see that Blackmon and Cooper both show as having some rushing stats, so I think they counted them as running plays.  But technically they were sorta forward pitches as on the end around the WR was a good 3 yards in front of Weeden when he shovel passed it forward to them. Just curious if anyone knows how those were scored.

Question #5: Where was "The Hott V"?
Did we use it at all on Saturday?

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Well, I guess the hott v is too awesome to bring out just anytime

Have to save it for big games. As to why we don’t use nickel more I have no idea. Maybe we tried it in practice and sucked at it. I don’t know, but we must cover better. I have faith that bill young will sort it out.

Kendall Hunter for Heisman

by AUKingOState on Sep 13, 2010 7:56 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

I have answers!

Whether they are correct or not, I don’t care.

1. I don’t think our safeties are at the level they need to be to play much nickle. Martin is great but past him, things get iffy. V. Johnson missed a lot of practices and right now it is showing. WIth that said, what the hell is wrong with Johnny Thomas?! He has blown so many assignments, tackles, etc. it isn’t even funny. After last year, I thought he was sure to break out this season…still waiting in a big way.

2. I think it is just an instance of the defense lining up so that Blackmon is on an island and obviously the coaches don’t want to run it too many times otherwise it loses its effectiveness.

3. I’d love to answer this except I was wondering the same thing. I get it. We’re an uptempo offense. I don’t care. There is less than two minutes on the clock and we have a three point lead. Use every damn second on the play clock.

4. I can’t remember the plays specifically but the rulebook states that any pitch, pass, shuffle, whatever that goes forward is a pass. Anything that goes backward is a rush. The only thing I can think of is that the stat keepers had a different view of the play and thought that the receivers caught the pitches behind Weeden.

5. I saw it a couple times. I think we ran it for the fade pass to Blackmon in the corner of the endzone. By the way does anyobdy else find it odd that two of his TDs were the exact same play calls that got TDs last week? I think we ran it last week more because of the way WSU was lining up against us. They were playing the pass and that’s why the Hott V worked so well and Hunter went for 572 yards (conservative guess). Troy went the other way. They played our receivers tight at the line of scrimmage and there were always at least two defenders shadowing Hunter.

by osumike17 on Sep 13, 2010 11:03 AM CDT reply actions  

Uggghhh… Johnny Thomas was awful on Saturday. I think I devoted 500 words to him in the recap so I dont want to continue piling on here.

I agree on the nickel thing, who can play it would be a tough call … but good lord I was nervous every time Troy went 5-wide and we were lined up with 7 guys in the box.

I hadn’t thought about that Blackmon scored on the jump ball and the post/fly in both games. Those are two routes where he is almost uncoverable though… at least against the 2 defenses we have seen so far.

by samuelbryant on Sep 13, 2010 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

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