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The Longhorn Network Will Destroy College Football


It is truly a rare day when I decide to write a serious post but don't fear, I'll still curse and shit. After reading the joint ESPN and University of Texas press release about the Longhorn Network I couldn't ignore the facts any longer. And those facts point to a singular conclusion, that Texas will end college football in its current capacity.

Due to a series of strategic moves on the part of Texas, and foolish concessions from other schools, Texas is in a position that no other school in any conference has ever known. No other school can destroy a conference by themselves. Our forefathers saw fit to keep our government from having a concentration of power. No single entity can make all decisions. Thank Christ that Dan Beebe wasn't one of our forefathers. We'd probably still be British and enjoy dank beer at room temperature and soccer.

Well, like George Washington said, (and I may be paraphrasing a bit) "arbitrary power is most easily established on the ruins of liberty abused to licentiousness, bitches".  I simply won't stand for licentiousness from the state of Texas.

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The end of football as we know it? The devil? Both? Yes, yes, and yes. Click the jump for more....

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Part One- History (or if you prefer, The Setup)

Let's take a journey back it time, destination- December 2009. Before the summer of 2010, the biggest issue facing college football was the unfair treatment of the non-automatic qualifier schools. The major talk was if schools such as Boise, Utah, and TCU deserved a shot at the BCS championship game. But, Jim Delany, (Big 10 commish, large dickhead), upset that his conference was old, slow, and sucked in the BCS, let the world know the Big 10 may consider adding teams. Adding teams made sense for other reasons, though. The more teams in the conference the bigger the reach of the Big 10 Network, and adding at least one team would allow the league to have a championship game. Both of these would increase the revenue of the Big 10. Shortly after, Larry Scott (Pac-10 commish) said his conference would also look into expansion. Suddenly, change is afoot (a word I don't often use).

Fast forward 5 months, in late May 2010,  the rumor mill started. Some believe that the Big 10 will expand more, to 14, possibly 16 teams. All while whispers began across the plains that Missouri wanted out of the Big 12. Yes, word on the street was ol' Mizzou, sick of making less money than Texas, (and probably sick of losing to OU in title games) wanted to join the Big 10. For academics, of course. Now, to be fair, at no point did the Missouri president, AD, or chancellor come out and say they wanted out. The governor of Missouri, Jay Nixon, however, said in December of 2009 (after the Delany announcement) that Missouri should leave the Big 12 for the Big 10, if the offer came. He also offered this little nugget,

"When you compare Oklahoma State to Northwestern, when you compare Texas Tech to Wisconsin, I mean, you begin looking at educational possibilities that are worth looking at,"

So, Missouri should leave for academics, not the fact that they can't win the Big 12. Well, Jay Nixon, and Missouri, fuck you. But I digress.

Let's move to June 7, 2010. Larry Scott emerges from the Pac-10 conference meetings with the authority to move forward with conference expansion. Scott and the Pac-10, ready to end their TV deal with Fox Sports (and to be true, a shitty deal), were looking to add at least two teams so they could split into divisions, hold a conference championship game, and get a better TV deal. However, Scott wanted to, and was authorized to, invite 6 teams from the Big 12 (for my friends from Mississippi, 2<6). These schools, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Colorado, Texas, Texas Tech, and Texas A&M, would give the conference 16 teams, making it the first "super conference" (a word that should be permanently banned from existence). It would also destroy the Big 12. Kansas, Kansas State, Baylor, and Iowa State, all shit their pants immediately. 

Now, at this point, things are starting to go batshit crazy in the media, and on June 10, 2011, Colorado decided to give the media fodder (and the Big 12 the finger) and join the Pac-10 with or without the others. Crazy days, indeed, but about to get crazier. On June 11th, 2010, Nebraska applied for, and was approved for, admission to the Big 10. Uh oh, Missouri has no place to go. Time for Mizzou to have a press conference and pledge loyalty to the Big 12. I would say it's like rats fleeing a sinking ship, but then realizing they are in the middle of an ocean with no help, then turning around to try and plug leaks.

While all of this is going on, Texas and Texas A&M are in a pissing match (well, Texas was pissing on A&M, and they forgot to bring an umbrella. You can try and deny it Aggies, but we all remember that 72 hour ultimatum Texas gave you). A&M, tired of being little brother, wanted to break ties and go to a different conference, the SEC. Texas, meanwhile, was willing to go to the Pac-10, so long as they get their own television network. The Pac-10 however,  told them to go to hell because they wanted a Pac-10 network, after seeing how well the Big 10 network was doing.

Now, at the end of all this excitement and bullshit, Dan Beebe (Big 12 commish, hated by everyone, even though they stuck with him) managed to salvage a 10 team Big 12 by using possible chaos to leverage Fox Sports and ABC/ESPN for more money, while caving to Texas' demands for their own network. The networks, worried about the bargaining power of "super conferences", ponied up the dough to make it work.

Now here is where the shit gets real, as they say. First, Texas is guaranteed to receive the most money from the conference (or at least tie for it). Secondly, they are allowed to pursue their own television network, instead of having to join a conference network as are all member institutions, but we'll get to that later. This latter concession is what will lead to the end of the current college football system.

Now, fast forward to the end, and who's happy after all of this? Well, Texas is completely happy. They get more money, and their own network. Baylor, Kansas (who thought way too highly of what basketball was worth), Kansas State, Iowa State, while getting substantially less conference money than everybody else, still receive more money than before, and get to stay in a BCS conference. Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, and Texas Tech all increased their conference allotment, while nothing else really changed (however, OU will receive about $3 million more than both OSU and Tech. Guess national championships are worth more than bragging rights after all. Well, bragging rights and being an asshole about them). Texas A&M also managed to get a slice of the big boy pie. Even after getting their cut, the Aggies, believing that they are worth what OU and Texas are (and they're not), threatened to sue the new Big 12 almost immediately if the dollar dollar bills didn't arrive on time. Missouri is pissed, and they probably should be. Sure, they survived in a BCS conference, but everyone blames them for the mess. But with that journalism school, you'd think they'd have more sway in the media. Maybe it's because having the world's best journalism school is worth about as much as the world's best art school.

What's the end result here, the point of over 1000 words? At the end of all this we have a business model with 10 partners. Of those, 7 are considered lesser partners and compensated accordingly, while 3 are considered greater partners and compensated accordingly. This model also offers no way for the 7 partners to increase their standing. If we consider the Big 12 a holding company, it has unequal revenue sharing, which has led to tension among the members. Perhaps a holding company is a bad analogy, as the Big 12 does not actually control the individual members, like in a true holding company. A true holding company would tell the 7 upset companies to shut the hell up. In this case, we have a situation where resentment and jealousy are able to breed.

A better analogy would be a polygamist marriage.

Part Two- The Present

As we sit here today, the revenue distribution of the Big 12 breaks down as follows: (from Forbes)

University of Texas $93,942,815.00
University of Oklahoma $58,295,888.00
University of Nebraska $49,928,228.00
Texas A&M $41,915,428.00
Oklahoma State $32,787,498.00
University of Colorado $26,233,929.00
Texas Tech $26,201,009.00
University of Missouri $25,378,066.00
Iowa State $19,974,924.00
University of Kansas $17,885,176.00
Kansas State $17,570,624.00
Baylor University $14,355,322.00

 

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These numbers are from the 2009-2010 school year. What can we gather from these numbers? (which don't include expenditures, but guess what?, the list looks pretty damn close after) First, holy sweet Christ, Texas is a fucking cash printing factory. But, seriously, Texas has become a national brand, and is a force to be reckoned with (but, and I'll get to this soon, they could have been reckoned with) Secondly, the Top 4 bring the conference up as a whole (when averaging the whole revenue of the conference, which is $35.4 million) OSU, Colorado, Tech, and Missouri all make similar money, and then the bottom four are similar. Now, basically there are 3 tiers of the former Big 12. Now, Nebraska and Colorado are gone, and the new revenue distribution model is different (yet eerily similar, Texas still on top, bastards).

Now then, we're starting to close in on a point. (but probably nobody is reading anymore. I'm just ranting to myself) When one looks at the new model of the Big 12, Texas, OU, and A&M stand to make $20 million per year (from the conference), while the other 7 schools will make between $17 and $14 million (depending on TV appearances). Well then, the schools who can fuck things up by moving (OU and Texas, sorry A&M, nobody cares about what you do) would seem to be equals (and on the field it's close, but OU has an edge in national championships at 7-4). Both make a cool $20 mil, both buy a shit ton of Texas logo's (some go up, some go down), and both have the ability to start their own network (and both are doing it). But they are in no way equals, monetarily. Oklahoma sits a full $35 million behind Texas.

Now then, on to the heart of the matter.

Starting August of 2011, the University of Texas will start a 24 hour UT sports network (kinda makes you wanna puke, doesn't it?). This will pay the University $300,000,000 over 20 years. That's an extra $15 mil per year for UT. Did you read that? Are you not pissed off? Basically, the rest of the Big 12 just got ass raped, and Dan Beebe let it happen. Everyone remember the movie Dodgeball? Well, the Longhorn network is basically the Ocho. Texas is in the sack with the evil empire that is Disney (yeah, they make kids movies, but they also own ABC and ESPN, so stop taking the family to Epcot). Sure, OU is creating a Sooner network, but who are they going to do business with? Fox Sports and Cox cable in Oklahoma? Yes, OU just signed a $75 million 10 year extension with Learfield, but for the love of God, do they expect to contend with ESPN? Now, instead of seeing some good football on ESPN, we get Texas vs Rice. Whoop whoop.

The only chance that this conference had was to band together against the mint that is Texas' athletic budget. While Texas makes, what can only be described as "mad" money, the combined revenue of the state of Oklahoma equals it.

Now, am I saying that the Sooners and the Cowboys have the same national brand power as Texas? Fuck no, but they have the money. If the members of the current Big 12 would have stood together and told Texas to cancel their network or leave, Texas would probably leave. And that, actually, would have been a good thing. It would take some doing, but losing Texas, adding say, TCU to get the Dallas area back (remember, we're talking before TCU left for the Big East), and perhaps adding someone like Houston (for the Houston market, duh) and Cincinnati, would have allowed the Big 12 to retain its footing in Texas, and expand towards the east.

But none of this matters now, it's too late.

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Part 3- The Future

Let's look at the ol' crystal ball and prognosticate a bit.

The logical conclusion to this saga is that Texas will eventually go independent. Sure, some people say Texas politics won't allow the four Texas schools to break up, but Baylor and Tech and A&M are simply slowing Texas down. So let's say this happens, and Texas succeeds from the Big 12 and goes independent. OU would logically join either the SEC with A&M or head west to the Pac-10 with OSU and Tech. Now, there will be some OU fan's who do not believe that they must keep ties with OSU. That's true, but the Pac-10 has already offer OSU once, and we stupidly followed Texas (I mean, at least Colorado and Nebraska had the balls to move, and look out for themselves). I think the Pac-10 would like to expand to middle America. That leaves 5 teams scrambling for homes, and I don't think Conference USA can hold them all. They would probably distribute across CUSA, MAC, and the WAC. Hell, OSU might be there with them. But lets say OU and A&M go to the SEC, making it a 14 team "super conference", it would stand to reason that the Pac-10 would want OSU and Tech, to even the field. That would probably push the Big 10 to offer Missouri and some other school not from the current Big 12.

Now, that scenario makes 3 "super conferences", with the ACC and Big East left with their dick's in their hands. We are pushing to a world with 3 or 4 massive 14-18 team conferences, and everybody else in the cold. Considering the scandal's currently going on with players alleging payment's during recruitment, Cam Newton and Reggie Bush, even the Dez shit here, we are all heading to the same fate as the Southwest Conference. Somebody is going to push it too far and burst everyone's bubble. Now, if all this happens, there is a sliver of hope, and that's if all the super conferences blackball Texas, but I don't see that happening. Not with ESPN swinging from DeLoss Dodds balls like some Dez Bryant testicle bling.

Part 4- The Conclusion

I firmly believe that the Longhorn Network will destroy college football as we know it. 

It leads to a revenue disparity in the Big 12 that is unfair and unsustainable. The reason the Big 10 and SEC are looked to as stable is because they all share money equally. There is no way that Vanderbilt is worth what Florida or Bama are. But, as a group, they decided to band together, and make things fair. Texas will only ever look out for Texas.

What I believe is, that the Longhorn Network will be the lynchpin that breaks up the Big 12, screws the BCS up (if the Fiesta Bowl doesn't beat them to it), and increases the money involved in big time college football. This will eventually lead to corruption (more corruption, I mean) and price all the smaller conferences out of the game.

Those who can't pay to play will go back to being universities with amateurs playing the sports like the old days, when a nickle bag actually cost a nickle. The rest will basically become the NFL's minor league, except for real. Hell, as it stands TCU will have to fly to every away conference game (akin to the NFC East).

What can we do about this? Well, probably nothing, to be entirely honest.

Well, Sooner fans can stop buying goddamn longhorn logos to turn upside down. For shit sake, who do you think makes the money off that? It doesn't magically go to OU because you turn that bastard upside down. The state of Texas is more proud of their desert than they are of the country they live in, and that's, quite simply, fucked up.

So really, the only thing to do is (and I'm totally ripping off a popular OU saying around October) "Beat the rush, hate Texas now". Or don't beat the rush, join it, just make sure at the end of the day you hate Texas, because they hate you- and they hate America.

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Outstanding sir. You should be serious (and shit) more often!

"I don't like Texas. I don't like the city of Austin. And I don't like the color orange. It reminds me of puke." The Boz

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by Jordan Esco on Apr 5, 2011 8:08 AM CDT reply actions  

Definitely rec'd.

“Well, Jay Nixon, and Missouri, fuck you.”

Awesome sauce.

by Royal John on Apr 5, 2011 8:49 AM CDT reply actions  

It worked out in typical Mizzou fashion.

Their perception of their own program is so ridiculously inflated that they think they can hire anyone they want.

So naturally when they get turned down they shift the blame to anyone and everyone else.

And then in order to avoid having their egos bruised any further, they hire some subpar coach with a losing record from a university whose basketball program is even shittier than Mizzou’s—just so that they wouldn’t get turned down again.

Tiger Success!

by Royal John on Apr 6, 2011 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bu bu bu but our journalism school is sooo good

Don’t coaches know that?

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by AUKingOState on Apr 6, 2011 3:09 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Is it ok if I only hate Texas 99%?

I mean I always root for Texas once in early October every year.

For what it's worth...

by Something Witty on Apr 5, 2011 10:12 AM CDT reply actions  

Thank God for Mr. Pickens

We would probably be shitting our pants too if we were in the same position before T Boone became a football fan.

by Upgrayedd on Apr 5, 2011 10:26 AM CDT reply actions  

Ha, great post...a few thing
Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, and Texas Tech all increased their conference allotment, while nothing else really changed (however, OU will receive about $3 million more than both OSU and Tech. Guess national championships are worth more than bragging rights after all. Well, bragging rights and being an asshole about them).

So I really just don’t get what your point is? Texas could have basically said it wanted to join any conference this last go around, but chose to stay to maintain their rivalries and have their own network, which any school can also do, but people are just getting mad because Texas is doing it the best? The unequal revenue distribution has been standard in the Big 12 for years but now its a problem, the conference wanted to keep the Big 12 South minus Baylor in the conference and they knew Texas was the lynch pin, for them to now change the revenue distribution model and not allow them to have their own network would be disaterous.

The only chance that this conference had was to band together against the mint that is Texas’ athletic budget. While Texas makes, what can only be described as “mad” money, the combined revenue of the state of Oklahoma equals it. Now, am I saying that the Sooners and the Cowboys have the same national brand power as Texas? Fuck no, but they have the money. If the members of the current Big 12 would have stood together and told Texas to cancel their network or leave, Texas would probably leave. And that, actually, would have been a good thing. It would take some doing, but losing Texas, adding say, TCU to get the Dallas area back (remember, we’re talking before TCU left for the Big East), and perhaps adding someone like Houston (for the Houston market, duh) and Cincinnati, would have allowed the Big 12 to retain its footing in Texas, and expand towards the east. But none of this matters now, it’s too late.

If the Big 12 had said no to Texas the Pac16 would have happend, A&M would probably be in the SEC, Baylor in the MWC, and the rest of the Big 12 North in the Big East, so its a non-starter isn’t it, when 6 or less schools hold/held all the power (UT/A&M/OU/NU/CU/MU) the others had no legs to stand on. All that aside, yes Texas would probably go independent but why push them to that? Do you think OSU is losing money to Texas? I don’t, honestly Texas (with A&M and OU) raises the TV contracts to such a level that all school benefit.
If Texas had gone independent and OU and A&M gone to the SEC what do you think a conference with Houston/TCU/Cinncy and the rest of the Big 12 would be getting in TV revenue? I obviously see the disparities in the system, and understand why people don’t like them, but you tell me that I can sign an investment banking contract with Warren Buffett but I’ll only get 10% of the revenues (I’d still be happy as a pig in sh*t).

That’s true, but the Pac-10 has already offer OSU once, and we stupidly followed Texas…it would stand to reason that the Pac-10 would want OSU and Tech, to even the field

Do you really think that the Pac-Whatever would have taken yall without OU/UT/A&M? I’m not trying to be rude OSU is my 2nd favorite school in the Big 12 (and I fell in love with the possible baseball conference the PAC16 would have been because yall were included) but from talking with people who I’ll admit know WAY more than I do about this stuff (which you may too which is why I’m asking), I thought Texas and A&M were slam dunks athletically, demographically, and academically speaking and OU was just a huge athletic power with okay academics (like Utah) and OSU and Tech were simply added to make it better politically. While I agree both school would make any conference better, the Pac10 is stuck up, they only wanted the upper tier academic universities, and routinely express concern over the three state schools that are dragging their averages down.

The reason the Big 10 and SEC are looked to as stable is because they all share money equally.

I noticed you did mention that Florida has its own TV deal for non-revenue sports and covenently left the Pac12 (who also distributes revenue unequally) out of you equation is also consider one of the most stable conferences too, and don’t the Big East and ACC distribute equally as well? So 2 of the AQ conferences distribute unequaly, of which 1 is stable and the other is not, and the other 4 AQ distribute equally which 2 are stable and 2 are not, looks like your arguement has a few holes in it. Their are many example of the unequal system working like in the WCC Gonzaga gets a lion’s share of their money but they are considered one of the most stable conferences.

Now, fast forward to the end, and who’s happy after all of this? Well, Texas is completely happy. They get more money, and their own network.

Basically, I am happy, as an avid fan who loves baseball this network will be awesome, the low tier football/basketball games will just save me from having to buy pay-perview or go to a sports bar, but my wife played tennis at UT, and my cousin was invovled with the track program, and I enjoy watching soccer, softball, volley, and even women’s basketball from time to time (sidenote Go Lady Ags!) especially if Texas is invovled, so I’m excited about the network, and the money…I just don’t know what everyone wants as a solution, the whole reasons conferences exist was originally just a scheduling alliance that morphed into the crap we have today but honestl;y the top 16-24 teams in football could just break away and make their own division (like the FBS did from the FCS) and leave the little guys behind, the rivalries and geographic closeness only slightly helps offset some travel cost and the rivalries are just nostalgic but how much is that worth (Colorado and Nebraska proved is smaller than we thought). If you want Texas to go independent we may but then expect Notre Dame to also get a network too, and soon USC, OU, LSU, A&M, Florida, Bama, Ohio St, Penn St, Florida St, Michigan, and Nebraska will all follow suit, maybe it’ll be 20 years from now but it will happen especially if people are trying to stand on some moral grounds of a great injustice that was NEVER brought up until Texas landed the ESPN deal which by the way people thought was idiotic until the payday came (people also said the same thing about the Big Ten Network). Heinsight’s 20/20 but come on and have some perspective.

by TowerPower on Apr 5, 2011 11:02 AM CDT reply actions  

Thank you for being civil and responding to points, I will keep it friendly as well.

I don’t blame Texas for doing any of the things they did. They looked out for number 1, and it’s absolutely their right to do so. Now then, perhaps your right, that Tech and OSU were only added for politics. And, I don’t think anyone here has any illusions that we are Stanford, but I will say that we are not a damn community college that everyone believes we are. According to USNews college rankings we fall right behind Kansas State at #132. Above, Oregon State, Arizona State, 12 spots behind Arizona, and 21 spots behind Washington State, Oregon, and Oklahoma (who all tied at 11). I don’t see how we are such a terrible school that academically we would be disqualified.

Now, do we all make more money with Texas? Hell yes, but there is also jealousy. Do you think Missouri will stick around if offered anything new? No. Nebraska and Colorado left because of unequal revenue (among other things). But, with out Texas, the conference would be more stable, but, you’re right, it would have made less money.

I did not mention the Pac-10 because of their unequal revenue sharing, something that I believe they were working on to address.

And, all Texas fan’s should be happy, hell they should be ecstatic. And proud of what Dodds and the others have built. But that empire is not concerned with the future of any particular conference (and, again, it does not have to be. This is America, damnit). But this network business will be the force that changes the college football landscape, and the Iowa State’s of the world are in trouble (and point of fact, with out T-Boone dropping bills, we would be right there with them)

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by AUKingOState on Apr 5, 2011 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agree with most of what say said here and in the original...

jealousy and fairness seem to go hand in hand I get that, is it fair that UT makes more no but its also not fair that TCU/Boise St don’t get to play in the NCG or that the Big Ten makes more money than the Pac12 when I think they are pretty comparable, that being said…

I saw your comments below and glad you comprehend that Texas was looking after its best interests, and realize that they took a risk and it paid off like anything in normal life does whether it be a start-up marketing company or a single school network. This IS America, damnit!

But does this affect the long term stability of the conference, well that answer to me is only if the other members try to force our (or OU’s) hand, we like the conference, playing OU in football, OSU in baseball, KU in basketball, plus home and homes with A&M, its great (I just wish that somehow we could swap Baylor for TCU and Iowa St for Nebraska). I’m extremely happy with our current conference, but I do understand its not an ideal situation for the rest of the members.

But is this jealousy/fairness worth blowing up these long standing rivalries and above average paydays? I think like you Mizzou and unlike you A&M may blow this thing up assuming the Big Ten expands (other than them I don’t see anyone disrupting the status quo for a long long time),

As far as academically I never said OSU and Tech weren’t worthy academically and therefor not worth talking about, most conference don’t really care anyways but (once again from what I’ve been told) the Pac12 wants all of its members to be tier 1 research institutions like the Big Ten, and its ultimate goal is to get all of their schools into the AAU (like the Big Ten also), I think both OSU/Tech are tier 2 which isn’t horrible at all but not what they truly want. The Pac16 wanted to add AAU’s Colorado, Texas, A&M, and newly tier 1 OU to raise the conferences academic profile enough to offset the perceived lower standing of OSU/Tech but my point was that I doubt they would be added with out at least another higher ranked academic institution. If OU/OSU wanted to go to the Pac14 I bet it would happen or Texas/Tech but not OSU/Tech. Like I said above most of my info is from thing I’ve read here at SB nation and other but like most things I bet the whole academic ranking argument is most probably overstated.

Thanks for being civil I read your stuff here a lot (1st time commenting) I enjoy these type of discussions, my cousin is being recruited by yall Arkansas and TCU in baseball and I really want him to go to OSU (he’s a good pitcher and also a QB too BTW).

by TowerPower on Apr 5, 2011 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

We always need pitchers

He may have a wait at QB for a while.

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by AUKingOState on Apr 5, 2011 2:41 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

CU would have left anyway.

They desperately want to be associated with the California schools.

by Texas Wahoo on Apr 6, 2011 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

To be the man, you've got to beat the man...

Woooooooooo!

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by CincyJoe on Apr 5, 2011 11:38 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

btw, rec'd King....

great job.

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by CincyJoe on Apr 5, 2011 11:38 AM CDT reply actions  

Interesting...

Didn’t Texas spend a truckload of their own money over the years building their brand? Should Cadillac benefit from Chevrolet simply due to GM? America is a capitalist society, where the government takes your first 25% for themselves, wastes it, and then complains that they need more. OU and the Pokes should band together and formulate the Oklamoma Sports Network. Might want to get on it.

2010/11 Final BCS* Standings
1. Auburn 14-0
2. TCU 13-0
*Wasn't this system designed to prevent this from happening?

by Mulliganville on Apr 5, 2011 12:25 PM CDT reply actions  

I should have made this more clear, Texas has every right to do what they want

But it is not for the good of the conference.

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by AUKingOState on Apr 5, 2011 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

OSU has a little piece of my heart...wife is a Poke.

And I am serious about the Oklahoma Sports Network. Together, it is formidable. Regarding the good of the conference, perhaps Dodds et al. are still pissed that the conference sent OU to the title game in 2008 when Texas was clearly more deserving. ;)

2010/11 Final BCS* Standings
1. Auburn 14-0
2. TCU 13-0
*Wasn't this system designed to prevent this from happening?

by Mulliganville on Apr 5, 2011 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't see how an OSN would make enough money to justify it's existence,

especially when it’s split 2 to 3 ways (if the Thunder want it)

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by AUKingOState on Apr 5, 2011 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Keep it collegiate.

2010/11 Final BCS* Standings
1. Auburn 14-0
2. TCU 13-0
*Wasn't this system designed to prevent this from happening?

by Mulliganville on Apr 5, 2011 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with him...

A Longhorn/Aggie network would have been more profitable than just the Longhorns alone per the WSJ so by that logic I assume a OU/OSU would be too, twice the programing and half the operating cost.

by TowerPower on Apr 5, 2011 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Two Conferences:

One is called “the North”, and the other “the South”. Instead of footballs, there will be muskets. GO!

Texas is going to get to watch badminton and men’s volleyball and other sports they can’t pay people to be interested in, on their own TV network! Good for them. As for the more money, OSU is in good company. I see Texas becoming the next Notre Dame, the university that everyone slowly comes to despise, and slowly erodes their relevance outside their home fanbase.

by Yachoffsmirnoff on Apr 5, 2011 12:39 PM CDT reply actions  

ND is still the most hated...

But their inconsistency, mainly in football, is more due to the current technological times we live in. Kids in high school today want to play football in decent weather…not on the frozen tundra. Sure, there will be some who stay home…but if you follow the trends, more kids are heading south as you can play sports year round. By sports, I mean golf, baseball, and football, without freezing your ass off. Texas isn’t going anywhere resembling anonymity.

2010/11 Final BCS* Standings
1. Auburn 14-0
2. TCU 13-0
*Wasn't this system designed to prevent this from happening?

by Mulliganville on Apr 5, 2011 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

And by technological times...

They can pull up the weight room at Oregon with the click of a mouse and see for themselves…

2010/11 Final BCS* Standings
1. Auburn 14-0
2. TCU 13-0
*Wasn't this system designed to prevent this from happening?

by Mulliganville on Apr 5, 2011 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Notre Dame has something Texas will never have,

a touchdown Jesus. They also have to deal with recruiting to an insane GPA, that Texas does not. There are too many people who care in Texas to ever let it become ND. They might suck again this year, but within 4-5 I’m certain they will be back to 11-12 win seasons.

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by AUKingOState on Apr 5, 2011 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

umm....yes no TD Jesus....but
They also have to deal with recruiting to an insane GPA, that Texas does not.

If I’m not mistaken Texas is right up there with Michigan, Florida, and Duke as top tier universities and HIGHER than Notre Dame. We have to pass on many top recruits each year because they can’t qualify at Texas, I know a guy from my high school (but I won’t name him) personally who really wanted to go to Texas but ended up at OU because he couldn’t qualify at UT. Obviously we’re no Stanford or Harvard but still I think they are top 10 and we’re at least in the top 40 and even 25 on some lists.

by TowerPower on Apr 5, 2011 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

That Vince Young guy was an absolute Einstein in the classroom….

by Royal John on Apr 6, 2011 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Just a second...

What about the millions of dollars OSU is getting from T. Boone Pickens? Do you believe that money should be split with the rest of the conference?

As for hating Texas…oh yeah, I’ve been ahead of the game on that issue for 40 years! The way the Big 8 saved Texas’ ass from college football purgatory after the breakup of the old Southwest Conference, and then bent over so the Longhorns could rape it, is freakin’ unbelievable. Texas should be shown the door immediately and replaced with another school. TCU is pretty good right now and comes to mind. Good luck in Conference USA Longhorns. On the other hand, you will probably actually win that conference fairly often…but I bet even the heartiest Longhorn fan will have heartburn at paying $30 to see Texas play UTEP or Tulsa.

by Toby H on Apr 5, 2011 9:19 PM CDT reply actions  

no, I'm not saying texas has do anything, Boone's money is for us, their network money is for them,

but, my point is that there is no solidarity amongst this conference, and that the longhorn network is going to create an even larger revenue disparity. If their estimates are correct, they will receive $15 million on top of the $20 million from the conference (and around another $85 million from ticket sales, merchandise, ect.), giving them $35 mil per year, when even OU and A&M only get 20. Eventually some school will get their panties in a wad over this (here’s looking at you, A&M), and bail on the conference, and when that happens it’s over. If Texas had joined a Big 12 Network, it stands to reason that they could have easily made between $10 and $15 mil per year, along with the rest of the conference, making the Big 12 that much stronger (and attractive to other schools). But, as I’ve said, this is America, and they can do what ever the hell they want, but that might end the Big 12 and lead to other problems

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by AUKingOState on Apr 5, 2011 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

You assume that Texas A&M can bail on a whim...

…and I’m not sure that’s true. State politics played a substantial role in realignment last summer, and I’m not convinced that Texas A&M can just up and leave for the SEC any old time it wants.

If a school’s defection is what you fear, then I’d be much more worried about Missouri, if they can somehow bamboozle the Big 10 into inviting them (not a given, as we saw last year). They don’t have another school for their politicians to protect, and after Texas, Missouri is the largest state in the Big 12.

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Bring On The Cats

by TB on Apr 6, 2011 6:56 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I believe he was referring to the popcorn at the game,

and the traveler of Jim beam you sneak in. At least I do.

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by AUKingOState on Apr 5, 2011 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wait a second...

ESPN is an alum of Texas???

Who knew?

by Royal John on Apr 6, 2011 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

RE: Just as second...

That is about the dumbest thing I have ever read on the internet lol! Texas in CUSA? The Big8 saved Texas? Can I have some of what your drinking? You dont think any conference in America wouldnt have jumped at the opportunity to ad Texas (even at its lowest of low points..)? I cant help but sense a bit of jealousy in your post lol Either that, or, you really are that dumb…

by TX333 on Apr 7, 2011 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

TCU brings nothing to the table.

Their potential market is already tied up in the Metroplex.

" Answers --Become Resources."
Without Questions, There are limited Resources...

by KWashburn on Apr 7, 2011 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I couldn't agree more
Well, Jay Nixon, and Missouri, fuck you.

Forward into Battle

by ChrisP Wildcat on Apr 6, 2011 8:53 AM CDT reply actions  

To add a quick couple of things....

First, Texas has every right to do whatever they want because they have the power to do so. That power was given to them by a wimp of a commissioner who would rather have a mutated and disfigured conference if it meant he kept his job. This opposed to actually doing good for ALL OF THE SCHOOLS in the conference even if it meant the conference itself disbanded. But how dare I expect a commissioner to look out for all of the schools in his conference?

If any of the Big 12 schools want to be pissed, they need to look at Dan Boobie—not Texas.

Finally, let’s not let the raise in TV revenue fool anyone into thinking it will help schools like OSU or Texas Tech. Although we are all part of the same conference, we are also eachother’s main competition. Everyone getting the same raise in revenue means that everyone is still getting the same slice of the pie. The raise may help against out-of-conference schools but again, they aren’t the main competition.

by Royal John on Apr 6, 2011 9:30 AM CDT reply actions  

I agree about Beebe

Texas leveraged a situation to their advantage, and it was completely their right to do so. I see it as a detriment to the longevity of the Big 12, and so this post was born. But, te situation was created by our commish trying to save the conference (aka his job), and gave Texas whatever it would take to keep them. Now the revenue gap is bigger than it was, and we lost the chpampionship game.

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by AUKingOState on Apr 6, 2011 9:53 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Gold
“super conference” (a word that should be permanently banned from existence)

Almost as much of an abomination as Super Shredder.

by BracketCat on Apr 6, 2011 11:37 AM CDT reply actions  

why is this not green yet? seriously, get on it people

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by AUKingOState on Apr 8, 2011 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Great post

coming for a Red Raider.

"A job well done is better than a job well said."

by I bleed Red and Black on Apr 7, 2011 11:43 AM CDT reply actions  

from

"A job well done is better than a job well said."

by I bleed Red and Black on Apr 7, 2011 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thank you

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by AUKingOState on Apr 7, 2011 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

This was linked over at...

…RMN Thursday Morning. Until now not a single MU fan has come over and replied to anything, even with all the kind words being tossed about. Wish there were more sports fans like those over at RMN.

by achillbreeze on Apr 8, 2011 4:09 AM CDT reply actions  

I really don't know what they can possibly say.

They were humiliated by the Big 10’s decision not to include them after they rubbed their wishful thought exit in the Big 12’s face. They have a whole two Big 12 titles I believe. And to add a cherry on top they hired a shitty basketball coach because they were tired of being told “no” by anybody decent.

Isn’t Mizzou supposed to be a hot shot journalism school? I guess they forgot to include a course on not jumping the gun.

by Royal John on Apr 8, 2011 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, we should all just get along

But then I had 3 tires slashed in Columbia in 2008, and generally the worst experience at an away college football game ever (and I had pee thrown on me in Norman). So, I’m not a big fan of ol’ Mizzou. You can say whoever slashed my tires was not a true fan, well, if that’s true then you did not have a true fan in your entire stadium. Also, I said you didn’t actually do anything to leave, but instead pointed out your governor was the one talking. It was just odd to me that your loyalty pledge game after the shit hit the fan.

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by AUKingOState on Apr 8, 2011 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Tremendous Article...

Honestly, it was great. The only thing I want to point out is that nobody in Houston cares about UH football. In the fourth largest city in the country, they can’t sell out a 30,000 person capacity stadium, ever. As a result, I don’t think adding them to the conference significantly increases the stronghold in the Houston Market. I figure TCU, Tech, and A&M would suffice, just my .02.

Again, Great Read.

"Have a happy halftime." - Mike Leach

by Bryan Leav on Apr 8, 2011 9:32 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah, uh is a reach, but they are always entertaining on tv

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by AUKingOState on Apr 9, 2011 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

tcu and tech have no significant presence in Houston. Its an A&M, texas and Rice town. U Houston, at one time,

competed in basketball and football well, but they haven’t kept up at all in revenues. In other words, if NCAA athletics is an arms race, which it is, then they don’t even have the bomb yet.

by longboard8 on Apr 25, 2011 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not to argue,

but I think you mean: “they’ve been fun to watch on TV for a year or two.”

"Have a happy halftime." - Mike Leach

by Bryan Leav on Apr 9, 2011 6:38 PM CDT reply actions  

eh, in today's society what you did last week is what you've done all time

and soon, they will be terrible again

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by AUKingOState on Apr 9, 2011 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dez Bryant Testicle Bling

Bravo, sir.

Nice write up, found it interesting though I must say I’m not sure all the $$$ will translate directly to on-field performance, I can hope it does but well you saw us play last year.

I wish I could play little league now... I'd kick some fuckin' ass.

by drbadass on Apr 17, 2011 6:19 PM CDT reply actions  

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