Attention BCS'ers: Oklahoma State Has Earned It
by CincyJoe on Dec 4, 2025 11:12 AM CST
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Attention BCS'ers out there. Oklahoma State has earned a shot to play LSU for the National Title. Alabama had it's chance, and the Tide fell short. Nobody outside of the state of Alabama and Louisiana wants to see a boring SEC rematch.
The BCS title game should be between the 2 best teams, and the Cowboys have proven that they are in fact one of the best, if not the best team in college football. They just blew out Oklahoma who was good enough at the beginning of the year to be the #1 team in the nation. The victory gave Oklahoma State it's first outright conference championship in the history of the program. The Pokes also ended an eight year drought against the Sooners.
It's a big deal. Don't let anyone convince you otherewise.
The BCS computers have loved the Big 12 all year. They have consistently declared it the best conference in the nation. So shouldn't the winner of the best conference have a chance to play the winner of the other best conference? If you're a rational person, the answer is yes.
BCS'ers need to show college football fans that they are rational people with a set of balls.
Oklahoma State dominated the preseason #1 team on both sides of the ball. They are led by a 28 year old ex baseball player, the best Wide Receiver in the nation and a coach that has a dance named after him. The coach said that he would build his program into one that competes for titles, and he's delivered.
If you need more than that, the mad hatter in Baton Rouge got his first head coaching job at OSU and in my mind, is responsible for a lot of the success we are seeing today. He got the ball rolling, then left for LSU and turned the program over to Gundy.
It's a lot better story than a boring SEC rematch.
Do the right thing and put Oklahoma State in the BCS championship game. Aside from being the best story, it's the right thing to do.
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You guys are a helluva team
but i don’t think one of the top two teams in the nation, out of 118 d-1 teams, playing in national championship game, loses to Iowa State EVER. If bama had lost to ole miss or kentucky, we’d be out. Go win a bcs game, rather than getting smashed in the bcs title game (which as a bama fan I think lsu will still beat us 70%+ of the time…they are THAT good)
Good luck either way
by TheYellowHammer on Dec 4, 2025 11:36 AM CST reply actions
weird
How our criteria works out for our team and your criteria works out for yours.
by samuelbryant on Dec 4, 2025 12:22 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Out of 118 D-1 teams
congrats on playing the most limp wristed non conference schedule ever. Kent State, Georgia Southern, North Texas.
Playing that group of dog squeeze trumps a loss to Iowa State any day.
by OSUtopia on Dec 4, 2025 12:27 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
hahaha. very nice. 1 rec for you.
"Nor yet in Dell?"
by GTcat on Dec 4, 2025 12:34 PM CST up reply actions
to be completely fair to Alabama
Penn State is a legit non-con
Heel for school, Vol for life!
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by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 4, 2025 3:07 PM CST up reply actions
I agree that they're horribly overrated this year
but they’re not nothin
Heel for school, Vol for life!
Bolts, Preds, Canes (childhood team, home state team, hometown team). Canes mini-STH. Southern hockey solidarity!
by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 4, 2025 11:05 PM CST up reply actions
Only bama fans want to see that stupid rematch
The sportsnation poll says (LSUvsBama) 21% and (LSUvsOSU) 79%. Alabama was the only state to pick bama. They already beat you guys what more do you want? LSU would not be the national champions they would just be SEC champions…
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by Asmaki on Dec 4, 2025 12:32 PM CST up reply actions
For the record, I'd bet on Paul Rhoads to kick the shit out of Ole Miss or Kentucky this year
even with a qb that might throw 4 INTs in the game.
Also I never hope that your school has to play with “it all on the line” less than 24 hours after your school takes a tragic blow that brings back memories of the last tragic blow (because it was virtually the same exact freak accident) it had about 10 years prior to. Why do I hope your (Yellowhammer) School has to go through that? Because no one does.
"Nor yet in Dell?"
by GTcat on Dec 4, 2025 12:37 PM CST up reply actions
Yikes
I’m sure those who passed in the plane crash would be happy to know their deaths are being used in a BCS argument.
by Promeco on Dec 4, 2025 5:15 PM CST up reply actions
For the record,
it wasn’t meant as that. In all honesty. Apologies if anyone thought that.
I just wanted to state that no school (and I mean more lives affected beyond just a “school” or fanbase, it was just the best description I could come up with for a group) ever should have to go through what OSU did. From a human heart perspective. Nothing to do with football at all, other than the fact that tragedy and timing occurred that way in 2011.
"Nor yet in Dell?"
by GTcat on Dec 4, 2025 6:25 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
GT, I'm picking up what you're throwing down. Rec'd.
You’re on point and I think you’re right….in general, whether it was OSU or any program, I think its a terrible situation to put amateur athletes/a program through.
You can’t reverse the past, but sometimes I think the business aspect of things gets looked at more than the human side of things. I’ve personally gone back and forth on this (have even commented strongly) but as time has passed I think, for my personal opinion, there should be policies in place to protect any school from catastrophes that are outside of the control of athletes. If we were talking about professional athletes, then that’s business and they’re professionals and they need to figure out how to play. The fact is college athletes are amateur unpaid athletes that get exploited by their schools, the media (especially ESPN) and are made to do things that are not in their best interest. Such as playing after midnight to get an athletic program paid for their TV deal (Tulsa/OU), playing with less than a full week to heal and prepare (almost every non-Saturday game played this year). I just don’t think a lot of things are handled in the best interest of the athletes. They are handled in the best interest of the coaches and their athletic departments.
Always like your input GT thanks for your post!
by htownpoke on Dec 4, 2025 7:17 PM CST up reply actions
that you compared Iowa State to Ole Miss or Kentucky shows you're clueless about the Big 12
a more apt comparison might’ve been Florida or Auburn. And if y’all had lost to Florida and beaten everybody else, you know you’d still be top two
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Bolts, Preds, Canes (childhood team, home state team, hometown team). Canes mini-STH. Southern hockey solidarity!
by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 4, 2025 12:53 PM CST up reply actions
Compare Iowa State to Vandy
I might hear that comparison out…but Vandy doesn’t play in the SEC West. Find me a 6-6 team in the West with 3 wins in conference, one being over the top 2 and a undefeated non-Con filled with 2 BCS AQ teams, and a quality mid major then we can talk. Also, please make sure said SEC West team has a schedule with 11 of its 12 regular season games against BCS AQ opponents.
"Nor yet in Dell?"
by GTcat on Dec 4, 2025 12:58 PM CST up reply actions
which is why I say Auburn
the conference/non-con numbers don’t fit exactly, but the quality:
*Blowout losses to LSU, Arkansas, Alabama, Georgia (ISU has blowout losses to Texas, Baylor, Missouri, A&M, and Oklahoma)
*Narrow win over Utah State (ISU has a narrow win over UNI)
*Two wins over 6-6ish BCS conference teams in Miss St and Florida (ISU has 7-5 Iowa, 5-7 UConn, 5-7 Texas Tech)
*One win over awful BCS conference team that had to fire their coach in Ole Miss (ISU has Kansas)
*One win over top ten team in South Carolina (ISU has Oklahoma State)
Iowa State played Kansas State closer than Auburn played Clemson, but everything else has at least a decent parallel
Heel for school, Vol for life!
Bolts, Preds, Canes (childhood team, home state team, hometown team). Canes mini-STH. Southern hockey solidarity!
by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 4, 2025 1:08 PM CST up reply actions
yea I looked up Auburn's schedule after writing that
And that probably is a pretty honest comparison…plus there’s the Ciziek-Rhoads exchange as well that makes it appropriate.
For the Record, I wasn’t trying to debate your points, but more so try and support them.
"Nor yet in Dell?"
by GTcat on Dec 4, 2025 1:20 PM CST up reply actions
no, I got ya
I just figured I can fill in a bit of detail as an SEC fan that you may or may not have already known
Heel for school, Vol for life!
Bolts, Preds, Canes (childhood team, home state team, hometown team). Canes mini-STH. Southern hockey solidarity!
by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 4, 2025 1:29 PM CST up reply actions
ISU was 32 in the BCS rankings and we lost in a 2OT game so it's not a terrible loss.
We had much better wins than Bama and a LSU-Bama rematch proves absolutely nothing
Perseverance isn't just the willingness to work hard. It's that, plus the willingness to be stubborn about your own belief in yourself."
---Merlin Olsen
by Schultzy on Dec 4, 2025 4:55 PM CST up reply actions
It should be conference v. conference
It comes down to this, the SEC has been anointed by ESPN and CBS as a sort of mini-NFL whereas the computers believe the Big 12 is the strongest conference. There’s only one way to settle it, the champion from each league should play each other.
Alabama v. LSU would tell us nothing interesting at this point.
by thunderupokst on Dec 4, 2025 12:33 PM CST reply actions
the champion from each league should play each other.
That’s the only way a playoff should be structured.
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by FlaGators on Dec 4, 2025 12:37 PM CST up reply actions
Exactly! oh and ill see you on the redskins gamethread haha
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by Asmaki on Dec 4, 2025 12:40 PM CST up reply actions
Haha, yes!
Editor at Alligator Army, a place that doesn't, you know, glorify concussions.
GoGators82 said it best: "Dollar Store cheap!"
by FlaGators on Dec 4, 2025 12:47 PM CST up reply actions
Rec'd. Bring on the B12 champs with a juggernaut offense and a opportunistic defense...
the resume is deserving, the match-up is intriguing as you have expressed. Two crazy coaches who are good at what they do who have history! Let’s do this, Tigers will be ready for whomever they face in Mardi Gras lite!, GEAUX TIGERS!
Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:
"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
by mjtig on Dec 4, 2025 12:52 PM CST reply actions
Dear Cowboys
Take a look around the SBNation blogs of the big12 and know you have a lot of support: BOTC, BON, ODB, WRNL. It’s awesome. We’re all (except KU, it’s basketball season, and they didn’t get a coach they wanted in football so they’re trying to deny the existence of football right now) pullin for ya.
"Nor yet in Dell?"
by GTcat on Dec 4, 2025 12:54 PM CST reply actions
Blackmon vs Mathieu
Would be worth the price of admission.
by CYphilis- on Dec 4, 2025 12:59 PM CST reply actions
Wouldn't Happen
LSU would put Morris Claiborne on Blackmon.
by SaveFarris on Dec 4, 2025 3:25 PM CST up reply actions
Biggest possible benefit from last night's game?
May have to be the fact that the conference moved it to Dec. 3rd. The fact that the ’Bama has been sitting at home for a week, helps this win leave a more lasting impression (also a chance to have better viewership) on people than if they had to play in the same timeslot on the same day as the Iron Bowl. Gotta give +1 pt to the Big 12 offices for making the schedule move to Dec. 3rd.
"Nor yet in Dell?"
by GTcat on Dec 4, 2025 1:22 PM CST reply actions
regardless of who gets there, good call, smart move and OSU took advantage
Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:
"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
by mjtig on Dec 4, 2025 1:29 PM CST up reply actions
Congratulations and well wishes
Washington State fan here and I am glad that you weren’t on our schedule this year. I am always impressive with the offensive firepower Coach Gundy can produce year after year. I hope to see you guys in the BCS title game for the same reason stated abovethat I think that the title game should not be a rematich. Granted, the ISU loss looks ugly but you had some very impressive wins this year to offset it.
Also, I want to wish the fans who were injured yesterday well. I saw the closing seconds of your game and could not believe the masses flooding the field. It is sad things turned out that way. Sadly, I think this incident will change a lot of policies about fans coming onto the field after games.
by PullManiac on Dec 4, 2025 4:06 PM CST reply actions
Welp
@jppalm: Sources tell me it’s official: LSU-Alabama, the sequel.
Perseverance isn't just the willingness to work hard. It's that, plus the willingness to be stubborn about your own belief in yourself."
---Merlin Olsen
by Schultzy on Dec 4, 2025 4:56 PM CST reply actions
I wonder if Boone Pickens has enough money to change that.
by troy.wilborn on Dec 4, 2025 5:09 PM CST up reply actions
pony up! big guy!
Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:
"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
by mjtig on Dec 4, 2025 6:30 PM CST up reply actions
Just stopping by to tell our friends good luck,
we’re all counting on you, and thanks for the excellent show last night!
2011: GTFO aggy Tour
by horndude on Dec 4, 2025 6:13 PM CST reply actions
sorry about the result, y'all
I think you and Alabama were almost dead even, and both deserving, but my vote (even as a fan of an SEC team), was with the Pokes. Fiesta matchup with Stanford should be a hell of a consolation though. Best of luck!
Heel for school, Vol for life!
Bolts, Preds, Canes (childhood team, home state team, hometown team). Canes mini-STH. Southern hockey solidarity!
by Incipient_Senescence on Dec 4, 2025 11:07 PM CST reply actions
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