CRFF Roundtable: Big 12 Edition

What are your thoughts on the Big 12’s announcement of a championship game starting in 2017?

Gallagher

I'm really bipolar on this. I like the sound of it but I don't know if it's the best desision with only 10 teams.

Robert

This would be where Bill Engvall says "Here's your sign."

Pokelahoma

I can only base my thoughts on our track record as a conference...It's going to be a disaster. The divisions cant balance in any way that makes much sense.

D1

WVU ,ISU, KU, KSU, OSU

D2

BU, TT, TCU ,UT, OU

Are they just going to play home and home between divisions? Sweet our division is dead. Round Robin? What's the point? What are the tie breakers? There is not a good 5 team split for this in our current geography.

Phillip

I don't know. I'm not sure it's going to improve the likelihood of a Big 12 team getting into the playoff. Beating a team twice in the same season, which is exactly what one of the two teams will have to do, is tough. None of the other conferences have that problem. Not that they don't see rematches, but they're not guaranteed. In fact I think it's almost unfair to the team that won the first meeting.

Nate

The Big 12 adding a championship means one thing, that the conference is expanding. A championship game with 10 teams and a round-robin scheduling system is just stupid.

Kyle

Knee jerk reaction that looks stupid with ten teams.

Follow up: If the league does not expand past 10 teams, can that work?

Gallagher

I don't think it would make sense to have a conference championship with only 10 teams. I don't understand the point of it.

Robert

...if the Titanic doesn't add more lifeboats...

Pokelahoma

Yes, it can survive. If it starts thinking small, agile, creative and not defined by the past. This current group looks at what everyone else does and wants to emulate it not realizing 14 isn't 10 and there are not good schools left under the current model. A TV model that's going to be dead soon anyways. Instead of asking how do we get Big 12 games on phones with the help of MLBAM....old dusty David Boren wants a cable channel like the SEC has....as ESPN loses a million subscribers a year......This is only headed one way and this conference has a beautiful opportunity to be innovative leaders. Instead we're gonna try to catch the caboose not seeing the locomotive is headed for the cliff.

We'd be better off with Mike Holder as conference dictator I swear we would. Dude swings out of his shoes and that's what this conference needs. Sure...he did the insurance thing and we missed...but he also got college golf on TV due to match play. He got a world class collection of facilities and coaches and is well on his way to endowing all our scholarships. The golf program was always in front under his leadership and he gives Mike Gundy the latitude to go with innovative ideas like satellite camps.....12 years before the SEC knew Harbaugh existed.

Phillip

I don't think the division of the teams really matters that much if the conference stays at 10 teams. You are still playing everyone. Frankly OSU is likely to end up in the North no matter how they slice it.

Nate

No.

Kyle

As, I've said before I think this is all a knee jerk reaction based on Baylor's comeback win two years ago. That or a number of things go differently and the Big 12 is one of three conferences to get a team in every College Football Playoff. Adding two sub par programs just further dilutes a conference already struggling with an inferiority complex.

I agree with Pokelahoma. The shortsightedness of the powers that be in this league is going to be its undoing.

What is fair and/or appropriate as a response for the NCAA to the Baylor scandal?

Gallagher

GIVE THEM DEATH

Robert

Did you really just ask that question on this blog? Is "death penalty" for the entire athletic department too much (asking for a friend)?

Pokelahoma

I am not sorry for hating Baylor. Nearly everyone I meet from there has a world view that I find dangerous. Not a faith thing, more so the faith as shield for doing bad things. They use something so many people dearly hold as important as cover for acting not average, but below. For all the slime Penn State and other college communities get for being isolated cults, Baylor is the worst I've ever had serious interaction with. It's not a coincidence that two of the worst scandals in college sports happened down there in 15 years. When you walk around telling people how great even their farts smell, they'll start to believe it.

That said, I'm not sure if death to their athletics would be helpful or productive for that culture. These jealous, insecure little people walk around offices all over Texas and they're angry...angry when other schools have success, angry when their school doesn't get enough praise....sports has made them bitter and no winner is possible. Imposed barriers on their success would just result in "THEY HATES US CAUSE WE LOVE JESUS" or "EVERYONE ELSE DOES IT BUT WE"RE SMALL AND UT AND BLAH BLAH BLAH" So let them compete. the market will sort it out. It usually does. Let them compete on a field they think is fair, a field they cut all the corners off...they'll get relegated anyways. Unless of course they go full Baylor and bitch and moan and look I don't have eight more paragraphs for state politics...but these people are bad ok...they're the ones who whine to their mom enough that she eventually calls your mom and your mom makes you hang out with them so that their mom won't ever call the house again.

Baylor is the worst...is all I'm saying...

AND NO BAYLOR DOUCHES I HATED YOU AS HUMANS BEFORE RG3...had nothing to do with your rape to power.

Robert

Imagine if Pokelahoma had a strong opinion about Baylor...

Pokelahoma

They are bad...like on a DNA level..flawed..

Phillip

I think I can sum up the only appropriate response to a "religious" university who allowed and covered up grown men physically and sexually abusing women, in three simple words. Sodom and Gomorrah.

Nate

No comment.

Kyle

This is a hard one. It's going to be very interesting to see what the NCAA decides to do based on the fiasco and backtracking they were forced into with Penn State. This like that situation was not just a football issue. It's much bigger.

What's right? A harsh penalty monetary-wise against the school and for people (not the program) to be have real consequences. Is that going to happen? Probably not. But the administration's reluctant sluggish actions thus far offer little more respect to the victims than the staff that covered these crimes up.